Hakka, Chinese and mesoAmerica

["S. L . Lee" <sllee@asiawind.com>]

Dear Dylan,

I have emphasized in the talk and in this narrative that this part of the
presentation contains some very controversial observations. Ancient Chinese
and native Americans may be totally unassociated and their cultures
developed totally independently. But comparing the two, would you see the
similarities are much higher than compared with other cultures? While there
are certainly differences between Chinese culture and mesoAmerican culture,
it is easily seen that they also evolve on different pathways after
separation for a long time.  One important fact that few could deny is the
genetic makeup of mesoAmericans is very close to Asians.

Many of the theories (or hypotheses) about the origin of Hakka are
debatable. My talk was mainly to draw attention to Chinese culture, rather
than Hakka culture alone. I beileve Hakka culture reflects many facets of
Chinese culture our ancestors picked up on the migration routes.  If we
believe our ancestors have migrated throughout the greater part of China,
then we should recognize that our culture is not derived from just one
location.  Another fact I would like to bring out is Chinese culture has a
much longer history and was more advanced than previously thought.

You mentioned about the mama baba as coincidental. It is exactly what
scientists are based on in the taxonomy of world language evolution.

You may look up about Zhongzhou and Hakka. I think it is something you
should be interested in.

I will not elaborate the other points to defend these hypotheses. What I
presented are ***more questions than answers***. Many of the recent
archaeological findings have revealed striking facts that nobody would have
believed years ago. Let's wait for more evidence before we try to prove or
disapprove these hypotheses.

SL Lee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dylan Sung" <dylanwhs@ukgateway.net>
To: "S. L . Lee" <sllee@asiawind.com>; <mcrinfo@sympatico.ca>
Cc: "Hakka Forum" <fhakka@asiawind.com>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Moy Yan/Mei Xian/Mei Hsien


>   6.Slides #19-30 depict some of the possible links of Chinese
>     culture to the "new world". Some of these slides are quite
>     controversial and involve very bold assumptions. However,
>     the evidence seems more than coincidental.
>         c.#23 A very intriguing discovery of a 9000-year old
>     flute found in Henan province sheds some light on how
>     advanced the Chinese culture was. Henan is called
>     Zhongzhou (the midland) and Hakkas are often called
>     Zhongzhou people. [...]
>
> I have never heard this refered to any Hakka person. I can not find this
phrase
> in MacIver's Hakka Dictionary in respect to Hakka people.