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RE: hakka: Taiwan Hakka and election
Well, since you mention Beijing promote the round house. I can't speak for
round house throughout Hakka areas, but in Yong Ding (the world capital of
Round House?), the local government has recently promoted round House as a
tourist attraction, not Beijing government(as in Central government and in
national cultural policy). According to my relative who is a high ranking
county official, they themselves eventually realize that they are promoting
only the hardware(the house as in building) and without the software(the
cultural aspect of the round house and broader aspect of Hakka culture), it
is hard for them to do much to it.
Just 3 weeks ago, I talked to my relative in china and I was glad the local
government is planning to promote another round house site in Yong ding
county, in a village known as Tze-Ke (beginning stream). Guess what, I
later found out that actually it is an American group that pay for the plan
to promote that village. I don't bother to check if it is UN, or some US
cultural group or the Hakka from USA or other Chinese from USA.
As for Chen SB winning the Ping Dong, I knew you mention that. I just want
to clarify that just because Chen SB won only 1 county does not imply he
does not contribute in a visible sense to Hakka culture. If that is the
logic, then by winning no Hakka county, it implies that Lian Zhan has not
done anything for Hakka culture(probably so), and Mr. Soong has contributed
greatly to preserving Hakka culture. I am assuming we are discussing the
efforts/attitude of each candidate on promotion/preservation of Hakka
culture. I can pin point a fact to readers, and that is the formation of
Hakka cultural center when Chen SB was Taipei mayor. This is a visible
effort in preserving Hakka culture by Chen SB.
As for the mainland Hakka links you mention, I assume you talk the city
links like Hoi fung county, MeiZhou web, etc. That is applicable across the
cities in richer provinces in China, much like USA, my city Kingsport also
has web site. It DOES NOT imply uncle Sam promote Appalachian culture or
making national policy efforts to preserve the Appalachian people and
culture in this area.
As for mainland Chinese delegation to Taiwan, the incident was mentioned in
a Hakka magazine, of course I am taking their words for it, I can't imagine
they will make a story like that. I also know that during another Hakka
grand gathering in Singapore, the Taiwan Hakka team protested they being
discriminated by staying on stage but refused to perform the cultural
program. There should not be any political agenda for Hakka Grand
gathering, only cultural, economical and educational. It is disgusting to
see these Hakka associations and in grand gathering openly endorse Great
Unity Cause, making political speech that is pasted from the People daily.
Hakka helped brought the communist to power and what do Hakka get in return
? A bunch of memorials throughout Hakka counties(BTW, there are more Beijing
sponsored memorials than Beijing sponsored round house in YongDing) and the
areas are as poor and as backward as ever.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: S. L . Lee [SMTP:email@example.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 2:55 PM
> To: Teoh, Jonathan
> Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com
> Subject: Re: hakka: Taiwan Hakka and election
> I did point out Chen won Pingdong, didn't I?
> Lien Chan has not won a single county. So, never mind about him.
> Here are the real statistics for the voting results of the 4 major Hakka
> County, Soong, Chen, Total, %Soong
> taoyuan 413370 299120 712490 58.02%
> sinchu 128231 61533 189764 67.57%
> miaoli 160533 86707 247240 64.93%
> pingdong 131217 238572 369789 35.48%
> There are Hakkas in other counties too, but these four are the major Hakka
> counties. I am not from Taiwan. If there is any error, please let me know.
> BTW, as to your comment on the negligence of Hakka representative from
> Beijing, I am not aware of.
> Just check the Hakka links in my website. I have added quite a few of
> websites from mainland China. Beijing has also promoted the round houses
> your hometown Yongding to be listed as part of World heritage sites. The
> pictures of the round houses on my website was sent to me by a Minnan
> friend. He just visited Fujian Yongding and other Hakka towns in 1999.
> There is a lot of promotion literature published.
> SL Lee
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Teoh, Jonathan <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> To: 'S. L . Lee' <email@example.com>
> Cc: <firstname.lastname@example.org>; <email@example.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 1:44 PM
> Subject: RE: hakka: Taiwan Hakka and election
> > Amazing how wording can change all the perception:
> > 1. Chen SB WON a Hakka county in PingDong. Lian Zhan not even one !
> > 3. NONE of the politician in Taiwan and China make public address in
> > In FACT, on the Hakka grand gathering in Taiwan, China's representative
> > the only Hakka delegation refuse to address in Hakka but Beijing Hua.
> > Chen SB did make 10 min Hakka public speech. Compare to the zero record
> > other candidate, He has done a lot for Hakka in the presidential
> > Now for visible things that Chen SB has done as a major, He established
> > Hakka cultural center. It is not "He has done a lot without delivery",
> > has done visible things to Hakka community, and compared to president
> > he certainly has done a lot.
> > As for 2, someone in Taiwan can give a better insight.