Re: Hakka Dialect

[CHUNG Yoon-Ngan <chungyn@mozart.collective.com.au>]

Hello Hakkas,

Regarding cug pu or Books of Generations, in olden days only the
elder sons of the families kept them. Unless the rest of the younger
sons made copies of them before they moved out, the offspring of these 
young sons would never possess any of them.    

There are not many families having the genealogies with them. The
headquarter of our Ying Yang Tang (Zheng4 Kongsi) is now in Singapore. Its
original place was in Canton where, in the 1960s the Red Guards kicked
them out. 

In comparison with other families our Books of Generations are fairly new
starting after the collapse of the Song Dynasty (960AD to 1279AFD) when
our ancestors moved to Dong Guan county in Guangdong province. I belong to
the 25th generation.

CHUNG Yoon-Ngan.


> Hi there,
> 
> Many people will have cug6pu2 or family clan histories which will link them
> to historic figures of the TANG dynasty, and before. Amongst these on the
> web is Jonathan Teoh's segment of his family history at your site under
> 'Genealogy'. The name (BIG5: ±i¤EÄÖ) Chang Chiu Ling (Zhang Jiu Ling) is
> mentioned. He served under the only female Emperor of China, Empress Wu
> Zetian. He lived between the dates 673-740 AD. 
> 
> My cugpu mentions a distant ancestor, §º¿[ Sung4 Gin2 (Sung Ching / Song
> Jing) [663-737] who served under the same imperial reigns as Zhang Jiu
> Ling. Since Jonathan and I identify ourselves as having Hakka connections,
> and our ancestry point to court life of the Tang Dynasty, it goes someway
> to establishing some of the assertion that Hakka people are people of Tang,
> ie, Tong2 Ngin2. Is this too circumstantial a link anyone?