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 Chinese Ming Dynasty & Islamic Influences
Author: Guo Zhongli (202.77.111.---)
Date:   03-31-02 05:18

CHINESE MING DYNASTY & ISLAMIC INFLUENCES

1368-1644 AD - The period of the Chinese Ming dynasty which brought to fore Islam’s heights in Celestial China under the aegis of her archetypical emperor- Chu Yuan-chang (better known as Hung Wu) who traced his Muslim roots to Madeenah in Saudia.

1372 AD - A Tausug mission was sent to Imperial China that, up to this time, had only received sovereign states; Jolo would send more missions in the years following.

- Sabah Journal reported a Ming envoy, Prince Sahib ul-Kahar Ong Sum-ping to have sailed through the Sulu Archipelago to Kinabatangan in North Borneo and established a permanent Chinese foothold in that vast uninhabited island.

1380 AD - Arab judge-cum-scholar, Sheikh Karim ul-Makdum (Arabic for Afather@), arrived in Sulu from Melaka; He built the first mosque at Tubig Indangan in Simunul Sulu and advanced Islamic teaching to neighboring islands but died at Tandu Banak in Sibutu Sulu without ever returning home.

1386 AD - Admiral Cheng Chi-lung was installed as chief of the the Eastern hemisphere; his son Kuo Hsing-yeh (Koxinga to the Europeans) was better known in tactics and strategy is today revered as national hero in China.

1390 AD - Srivijayan Raja Baguinda, a minor ruler of Minangkabau, arrived in Sulu from Swarna Dwipa and founded the town of Bwansa in Jolo Island; His other compatriots, fleeing incoming Majapahit warriors, settled in Negri Sembilan (a state in present-day Malaysia).

1400-1440 AD – China reportedly sent naval expeditions to the coastal towns of present-day Philippines for forty years to familiarize with Moro piratical activities plying the south China Sea even engaging in desultory conflicts with Japanese corsairs.

1402 AD - Temasek ruler Parameswara, again running from invading Majapahit warriors, moved north to Muar and founded a Melaka settlement; He also embraced Islam on marrying a princess from Samudara Pasai and named himself Sultan Iskandar Shah of the Sultanate of Melaka to honor his ancestor Raja Iskandar Zulkarnain (the Macedonian greatman Alexander the Great).

- Melakan Sultan Shah sent a mission to Imperial China in 1405 for which admiral Chengho returned the courtesy in 1409; Shah himself went to China in 1411 AD - with a retinue of four-hundred-fifty confederates accompanied by Chengho himself.

- Melakan Sultan Shah’s home government reforms included specifying the functions of civil service offices like bendahara" (prime minister), temenggong laksamana" (admiral) and "shabandar" (harbor master) and adopted the custom of having ceremonial "white-and-yellow" umbrellas for royalties; He also laid the foundation of present-day Malay court procedures.

1403 AD - Melakan Sultan Shah was visited by a Chinese envoy Yin Ching, and admiral Chengho who arranged for his 1411 China visit; For this effort, Chengho was revered by the locals as the Venerated Sam-po Kong and built for him a baronial temple in Melaka.

1405-1433 AD - Ming emperor Yung Lo sent for seven naval expeditions from his Yangtze estuary to comb the shores of the Eastern Hemisphere employing 27,800 military crew in 1,180 Asampans@ and commanded by Muslim admiral Chengho; Chengho died in 1433 in Calicut (present-day Calcutta). According to Nichol, about the same period, another Chinese envoy was sent to Sulu corollary to this colossal plan of emperor Yung Lo.

1406 AD - Brunei Sultan Ahmad (a.k.a. Pateh Berbai) sent an envoy to Imperial China which occasion inspired him to change his north Bornean settlement to Brunei from a Sanskrit word Abarunai.

1408 AD - Chinese admiral Pei Pei Hsein, who was originally in the expeditionary fleet of Sam-po Kong that earlier visited Melakan Sultan Shah, was forced to land in Jolo because of monsoon rains and settled for sometime in Maubuh beach where he built a deep-well artesian as a gesture of gratitude for local hospitality.

- Early Jolo Chinese settlers revered him on his death as Poon-tao Kong, Athe Celestial,@ and interred his immortal remains at Jati Tunggal in Indanan Sulu where a memorial tombstone stands today.

- Islam widely spread to the North Borneo island in the Darvel Bay area.

1417 AD - Sulu Eastern Nakura Paduka Batara, together with Western Nakura Maharajah Gemding and Northern Nakura Paduka Balabu, including three-hundred-thirty-four Tausug nobles, visited Dezhou town in Shandong China on invitation of the Ming emperor Yung Lo.

- Nakura Paduka Batara of the northern kingdom, however, fell ill in Dezhou and died, necessitating Emperor Yung Lo to order his ministers to honor the distinguished guest with a funeral befitting a visiting king.

- Other tribute bearing missions were sent between 1420-1454 but contacts abruptly ended in 1473 when the Brunei leaders started to control the foreign policy of the Royal Sultanate of Sulu which is now under their governance.

1433 AD - A Seven-Datu-Council codified the Code of Kalantiaw (by Kalantiaw) and the Maragtas Code (by Sumakwel) for the people of Panay Island; Three Adatus from the original ten who came to Panay left for Batangas and Mindoro; Datu Putih was one of them but eventually returned to North Borneo from where no trace of him was found.

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 Ming dynasty is MUSLIM!!!?
Author: Huang Baoxin (---.brunet.bn)
Date:   03-31-02 08:01

Many people question the identity of the first Ming emperor, Zhu Yuanzhang or Hongwu Emperor. Some claim that he was a Muslim of Semitic (Semu) origin.

Yusuf Chang, a Chinese Muslim from Taiwan, was one of those who made this claim. He claimed that his ancestor had married a Ming princess and thus he was a descendant of Zhu Yuanzhang and knows the secrets of the Islamic religion of the Ming royal family.

He presented many startling evidences to support his claim. They are:

1. When Zhu Yuanzhang was young, his family perished in a famine and he buried them by wrapping them in white clothes. Wrapping the dead in white cloth is a Muslim custom.

2. Zhu Yuanzhang's closest associates were Muslims. Thus, the Ming dynasty was founded by Muslims.

3. Zhu Yuanzhang passed a strict law forbidding 'wine'. Once he had the son of his close associate killed for breaking the law. 'Wine' is strictly forbidden in Islam.

4. Empress Ma (Zhu's consort) was a Muslim. She had personally cook all the meals for Zhu, even after he had become the Emperor.

5. The royal colour of the Ming dynasty was green, the colour which symbolizes Islam.

6. Zhu Yuanzhang ordered the building of a mosque in Nanjing after he ascended the throne and he personally wrote a poem praising Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. This poem is seen by Muslims as the 'syahada' the testimony of Zhu's faith in Islam.

7. Many Muslims rose to high ranks during the Ming dynasty. One good example was Admiral Zheng He. Admiral Zheng He's fleet sailed to Mecca, Arabia and performed the 'haj'. Yusuf Chang claims that Zheng He was sent by the Ming emperor to perform the 'haj' on his behalf because the emperor was not able to do so as he wanted to keep his religion a secret among the non-Muslim masses. This practice is allowed in Islam.

8. The Ming dynasty established good ties with many Muslim countries. This is because the Ming dynasty is MUSLIM and the religion of the Ming royal family is ISLAM.

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 Re: Ming dynasty is MUSLIM!!!?
Author: Huang Baoxin (---.brunet.bn)
Date:   03-31-02 08:13

Another fact that I left out which should be no. 9 is: The Islamic Calendar was made the official calendar during the Ming dynasty.

It seems there many evidences to prove the claim that the Ming dynasty is Muslim. Are there as many to disprove the claim?

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 Re: Ming dynasty is MUSLIM!!!?
Author: Guo Zhongli (202.77.111.---)
Date:   03-31-02 13:01

It should not be astonishing that the Ming Dynasty is Muslim, the only one in China and coincidentially the last Chinese dynastic line, why should one be baffled after all most Chinese emperors before the Ming were Buddhists. Buddhism which as we all know came from India, like Islam is a religion of non-Chinese religion, Jiang Jingguo and close K.M.T. associates of his were Christians, and Christianity originates from the Middle East like Islam. It should be curious to note that in China, Islam, Buddhism and all other major religions are recognised by the Government except for Christianity which is still regarded as an "evil cult" (something which I disagree with).

Given that almost all Muslims in China adhere to the sufistic-hanafite school of thought as it is in neighbouring Central Asia and Turkey. One may doubt that Zhu Yuanzhang was a stringent Muslim in the sense that middle-eastern and southeast Asian Muslims are, therefore it is not quite possible that he proscribed wine consumption, what more kept his religious convictions secret in a China that at that time was among the most tolerant and open societies on earth.

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 Re: Ming dynasty is MUSLIM!!!?
Author: Guo Zhongli (202.77.111.---)
Date:   03-31-02 13:06

It should not be construed that Zhu Yuanzhang whose reign predates Zheng He's time having "Semu" blood running in his veins is a non-Chinese like the Yuan and the Qing rulers are, many Chinese do in fact have Turkic, Persian and some Arab strains in them. After all socio-cultural interchange in most cases makes ethnogenesis inevitable, perhaps if the Silk Road did not exist China would be more homogeneous like Japan or Korea.

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 Re: Ming dynasty is MUSLIM!!!?
Author: Guo Zhongli (202.77.111.---)
Date:   03-31-02 13:15

That the Islamic Calendar was the official Ming calendar, it is doubtful as the Chinese Muslims celebrate the Lunar New Year until this very day as the Chinese of other religions do. Nonetheless both calendars share similarities as they are based on lunar calculations.

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 Re: Ming dynasty is MUSLIM!!!?
Author: Nobuho Zheng (24.168.229.---)
Date:   04-29-02 21:59

What makes you think Koreans and Japanese are homogeneous? There were socio-cultural interchange between Japanese and Koreans with Chinese; among themselves; Koreans with the Mongolians; and Japan with the Russians. Okinawa, for example, is a great example of socio-cultural interchange between China and Japan.

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 Re: Ming dynasty is MUSLIM!!!?
Author: Datu RAYMUND J. ESER 
Date:   04-20-05 00:54

Please help me to trace my ancestor/patriarch in the dezhou city,anling town,shandong province for the filipino first embassy in the ming dynasty cultural ties relation in the restoration of our chinese culture.

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 Re: Chinese Ming dynasty & Islamic influences
Author: dinggol a. divinagracia 
Date:   09-30-06 18:56

Greetings! Mr. Guo:

Re: ".....1433 AD - A Seven-Datu-Council codified the Code of Kalantiaw (by Kalantiaw) and the Maragtas Code (by Sumakwel) for the people of Panay Island; Three Adatus from the original ten who came to Panay left for Batangas and Mindoro; Datu Putih was one of them but eventually returned to North Borneo from where no trace of him was found....."

I'm very interested on the above-cited quote. As a descendant, trying hard to over-turn the "Hoax Theory" of this historical facts as claimed by some quarters.

Shall appreciate very much if you have any more info/source about this subject.

Respectfully...dinggol..

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 Re: Chinese Ming Dynasty & Islamic Influences
Author: Mohshie 
Date:   02-02-07 08:21

"1372 AD - A Tausug mission was sent to Imperial China that, up to this time, had only received sovereign states; Jolo would send more missions in the years following.

- Sabah Journal reported a Ming envoy, Prince Sahib ul-Kahar Ong Sum-ping to have sailed through the Sulu Archipelago to Kinabatangan in North Borneo and established a permanent Chinese foothold in that vast uninhabited island."

"1408 AD - Chinese admiral Pei Pei Hsein, who was originally in the expeditionary fleet of Sam-po Kong that earlier visited Melakan Sultan Shah, was forced to land in Jolo because of monsoon rains and settled for sometime in Maubuh beach where he built a deep-well artesian as a gesture of gratitude for local hospitality.

- Early Jolo Chinese settlers revered him on his death as Poon-tao Kong, Athe Celestial,@ and interred his immortal remains at Jati Tunggal in Indanan Sulu where a memorial tombstone stands today.

- Islam widely spread to the North Borneo island in the Darvel Bay area."

I was intrested with the above statment where I was an idahan and it was our ancestor who are the first muslim in Darvel Bay, Lahad Datu Sabah in 1408 AD.

Another thing about the Ming envoy Prince Sahib ul-Kahar Ong Sum-ping are almost similar with my ancestor namethat we called Pengiran Kahar that we dont know where it came from and my point is; is it possible that he was my ancestor because we have an descendent exlusive right on all bird nest cave in Sabah since the 1408 AD.

Because I think for the local native in Sabah don't know the value of the bird nest yet during that time, except the chinese and we think that we are the descendent settler during the Ming envoy to the north borneo(sabah).

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 Re: Ming dynasty is MUSLIM!!!?
Author: SL Lee 
Date:   02-02-07 09:32

Ming dynasty allowed different religions without special preference, except Daoism is more popular. The association with Muslim actually started mostly in Yuan dynasty. There was busy trading with the Arabian countries then. Yuan reached as far as the Mediterranean Sea.
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SL Lee

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 Re: Chinese Ming Dynasty & Islamic Influences
Author: ben (212.76.68.---)
Date:   02-06-07 11:22

Mr. Guo,

Salam!

I am a tausog living in Jolo, Sulu. I was amazed about your knowledge about my identity as a Tausog. We also read and have the knowledge of this past dynasty. I just want to ask what is the status of the chinese muslims and the tausog at this present day? is their any communication?
As far as i know last 1987 HRH Sultan Esmail D. Kiram II (present Sultan of Sulu and North Borneo) has visited China. You have any idea about this?

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 Re: Chinese Ming Dynasty & Islamic Influences
Author:  FRANK S. EMBOLTURA 
Date:   10-16-08 20:05

1433 AD - A Seven-Datu-Council codified the Code of Kalantiaw (by Kalantiaw) and the Maragtas Code (by Sumakwel) for the people of Panay Island; Three Adatus from the original ten who came to Panay left for Batangas and Mindoro; Datu Putih was one of them but eventually returned to North Borneo from where no trace of him was found.


MR. GOU,

i am from san joaquin, where the alleged 10 Bornean Datus landed. i am very interested with the fact that you had posted based on chronicles by the Ming Dynasty. can you give me more facts regarding this article? especially on the above statement that i copied from your posting. your help will surely be appreciated by me and my town's people.

thank you

frank

FRANK S. EMBOLTURA

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 Re: Chinese Ming Dynasty & Islamic Influences
Author:  FRANK S. EMBOLTURA 
Date:   10-16-08 20:09

san joaquin is in iloilo, philippines (located in PANAY island)

FRANK S. EMBOLTURA

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 Re: Chinese Ming Dynasty & Islamic Influences
Author: SL Lee 
Date:   10-17-08 15:00

Frank,

Mr. Guo posted the article 6 years ago. He has not been seen in the past few years in the forum. You are welcome to do some research on the topic and post it here.

Please also see the Zheng He forum.
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SL Lee

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 Re: Chinese Ming Dynasty & Islamic Influences
Author: Leslie Chong 
Date:   10-20-08 15:23

I postulated that Ong Sum Ping was Rajah Putih:
http://www.asiawind.com/forums/read.php?f=2&i=4054&t=1555
It's possible that Hang Li Po was his daughter. I have no historical facts to support this theory, I was just putting all those posts by different readers in that thread.
Datu Putih could be Rajah Putih, since Datu and Rajah are just titles. The time-line was not out of place.

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