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 Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: Chow Lee 
Date:   05-07-12 15:27

This is no joke? An entire industry!!! I am glad it is at least wroth of "investigation".

This is not a bash. How could it be?


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/south-korea-seizes-capsules-containing-powdered-flesh-dead-190306280.html

"The South Korean government revealed Monday that it recently seized thousands of capsules filled with the powdered flesh of dead babies. Reportedly, some people believe the powder has medicinal purposes and was created in northeastern China.

South Korea has reportedly been reluctant to criticize China directly over the incident, out of fears of creating diplomatic friction with the country. But the process by which the powder is allegedly created is one of the most disturbing stories imaginable.

According to the Korea Customs Service, the bodies of dead babies are chopped into small pieces and dried on stoves before being turned into powder. The customs officials have refused to say exactly where the babies come from or who is responsible for making the capsules.

China has already been in the spotlight over activist Chen Guangcheng, whose work involves protesting the government's sterilization and forced abortion policies. It was recently reported that China is working to "soften" its one-child policy slogans, though not the actual policy itself.

Last year, Chinese officials ordered an investigation into the manufacturing of drugs made from dead fetuses or newborn babies. Nonetheless, South Korean officials said in a statement they have discovered 35 smuggling attempts since last August, during which 17,450 capsules labeled as "stamina boosters" were discovered. Rather than containing any inherent medicinal properties, the capsules are said to contain dangerous bacteria and other harmful, unspecified ingredients.


Amazingly, none of the smugglers have been arrested in the various confiscations because the South Korean customs officials said the amounts of human flesh contained in the capsules were too small and were not intended for direct sale. The smugglers claimed to have no knowledge of the human flesh content, saying they believed the capsules were ordinary stamina-boosting pills."

Chow Lee

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: cheok hong chuan 
Date:   05-07-12 18:18

Gross and Disgusting! I can understand if they restrict it to the off-cuts of the umbilical cords [fresh tissue] but dead foetus! Not a side industry of family planning I hope, otherwise it would be bad karma in the future for the Chinese people!

Hang them, as you would with children kidnappers and smugglers, drug traffickers and corrupt politicians!

Good report, Chow Lee!

CHC
8/5/12

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: charles koon 
Date:   05-08-12 02:24

""Good report, Chow Lee!""

What ???!!! By a despicable seller of his ancestry, even by African standard, to prove his loyalty to Uncle Sam!?

关 红 星

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: KChew 
Date:   05-08-12 02:34

Hold on there ... You are cursing the whole lot of Chinese people based on a news report which one can really verify. Is the news really true, and that is is really easy to find dead baby and chop them up - surely the Chinese people and Chinese media would have discovering it first rather than the Korean?

Secondly, even if this is true, surely you can't blame the entire 1.3 billion Chinese people. Maybe a Chinese company or criminals were involved, but how could you wish bad karma one future of innocent Chinese people. Somethng is not really right with you!

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: Lea Tsang 
Date:   05-08-12 03:47

I think he meant hang the culprits and not every Chinese person!

Lea Tsang

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: FM Liew 
Date:   05-08-12 05:12

Korean cosmatic products has had mixture of placentas.
Very likely came from aborted dead fetus, and dead babies, and mother died during labour.

These is not a concern...as many cosmatic products came with animals remain.

But the question is; Are Korean ignorent about their national cancer causing cosmatic product also laced with human remains?

What is Korean motive & objective???

Are they initiating a trade war with China, by misleading the ignoramus?

Can the stupid Korean handle it?

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 How do Korean know the placenta came from the dead?
Author: FM Liew 
Date:   05-08-12 05:33

Please be informed.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1000192,00.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_uses_for_placenta
Excerpt:
There are a number of foods, many with touted health benefits, that use placenta as a direct ingredient. This is in addition to ritual consumption by mothers and families in many cultures.

Human Placental Extract Products - Part I
http://placentrex.blogspot.com/2011/04/human-placental-extract-products-part-i.html

Tell me how do you differentia..the dead's placentas, and living placenta.

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 Misrepresentation = Good report?
Author: FM Liew 
Date:   05-08-12 05:46

He act as a courier to misinform, mislead, misrepresent the public.

Dao observation base on raw form.

Christians seek for the end results.

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 Ministry: No Human Flesh Capsules Found in China
Author: KChew 
Date:   05-08-12 08:41



2012-05-08 16:04:18 CRIENGLISH.com Web Editor: Zhangxu

An investigation by China's Health Ministry has found no traces of powdered human flesh in drug capsules, a ministry spokesman said on Tuesday.

Deng Haihua said the Health Ministry started investigating media reports last August that China-made drug capsules contained powdered human flesh, but found no instances of such substances, the China Network Television reports.

Deng also said the ministry would conduct a further investigation with public security bodies, the customs agency and departments for the administration of industry and commerce.

The South Korean media had reported that the country had strengthened its customs inspections as part of a crackdown on the smuggling of the Chinese drug capsules made from dead babies and infants in northeastern China.

South Korean officials said some people thought the capsules could boost man's sexual abilities. However, an investigation had shown that they contained harmful ingredients.

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 Sexual conduct & Christianity
Author: FM Liew 
Date:   05-08-12 09:01

South Korean officials said some people thought the capsules could boost man's sexual abilities.
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Christian and sexual conduct...see any connection here?

Koreans are known to be practicing the most extreme form of Christianity...don't even know what that is, but they were known to chop off their pinky finger...for petty stuff.

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 Re: Sexual conduct & Christianity
Author: suen.kuen 
Date:   05-08-12 09:10

Them South Koreans are known to be widely tinted with them Japs' genes. That explains their wild behaviour now and then. I'm beginning to look at them S-Koreans differently.

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 Re: Sexual conduct & Christianity
Author: FM Liew 
Date:   05-08-12 09:23

South Korean[esp Christian ] are known to falsify stuff, whether politically, or religion.

And yes, South Korean under the commend of Japanese imperial forces murdered and raped millions of Chinese.

How can anyone forget this part of history?

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: Chow Lee 
Date:   05-08-12 09:35

How do you arrive at such nonsense? I am not cursing anyone. I am however surprised a) That South Korea was fearful to speak up (B) That no arrests have been made.

Chow Lee

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: Chow Lee 
Date:   05-08-12 09:36

Yes it is sad this is happening and a little sad how the media is reporting on it in that the vast majority of Chinese would never have anything to do with this.

Chow Lee

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: FM Liew 
Date:   05-08-12 10:45

Lars, didn't you challenge the claims prior posting it?

What nonsense got into you...that prompted you to be so obsessive in spreading such rumors and lies across the internet world?

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: Chow Lee 
Date:   05-08-12 11:38

Since you call me Lars...I'll call you Betty.

Rumors? WTF!!! You think I made this article up!!??

Chow Lee

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: FM Liew 
Date:   05-08-12 11:51

Oh you are just an innocent peddler...whose only interest is to disseminate news about China, irregardless whether it's true or false.

It's either you post the true stuff...or STFU...got it?!!

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: tom Dragon 
Date:   05-08-12 13:29

S. Koreans should go for American urine it's more nutritious. no joke

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: Chow Lee 
Date:   05-08-12 17:08

So you are telling me this news article is false and theat fabricated it?

Chow Lee

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: Tin-Kay Goh 
Date:   05-08-12 18:42

What a load of purported Korean rubbish report!!! How can anyone ascertain the powder is from Chinese babies? What can be identified would be human tissue. People trading in hormones would use placenta, which can be dried. For cellular extraction, powder is of no use. We know for a fact that placentas following child delivery are sold to pharmaceutical companies for human hormone extraction. When I was a medical student in Kadang Kerbau Hospital in Singapore in the late 1970s, the placentas were collected and sold to American companies by the Singapore government. At that time, Kadand Kerbau was the largest maternity hospital in the world. The human chorionic gonadotrophin extracted was useful in treating those with deficiency and infertility. Powdered baby parts: Nonsense Chow Chow report.

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: cheok hong chuan 
Date:   05-08-12 19:33

TKG,

Thanks for clarifying. The South Koreans are wrong then, in suggesting that this was an illegitimate or illegal act relating to flesh of dead babies.

As I hinted; if it is to do with the stem cells from the umbilical cord or inchoate foetus then it is quite a different matter altogether!

Maybe Chow Lee inadvertantly misposted what was said by the South Koreans.

CHC
9/5/12

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 China finds no 'human flesh capsules': official
Author: FM Liew 
Date:   05-08-12 23:58

Excerpt:
BEIJING - China's health authorities said Tuesday that medications made of human remains were not found in the country, but they will further investigate the matter.

Deng Haihua, spokesman with the Ministry of Health, made the remarks in response to media reports that so-called "health capsules" made with aborted fetuses were smuggled into the Republic of Korea from China.

Health departments launched investigations into similar media reports last August and found no proof, Deng said at a press conference here.

Health departments will work with police, customs agencies and commerce authorities to investigate the claims made by Korean media and inform the press as soon as there are results, he said.

Deng insisted that China has strict rules on the disposal of the remains of dead infants, aborted fetuses and placentas, which are categorized as human remains and banned from being disposed of as medical waste.

Medical institutions and their staff are forbidden to trade human remains, including placentas, he added.
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/7811730.html

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 Re: China finds no 'human flesh capsules': official
Author: Yen Sen 
Date:   05-09-12 00:14

now china should demand south korea to prove it.

Yen Sen

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 It's mentality of korean
Author: FM Liew 
Date:   05-09-12 00:33

now china should demand south korea to prove it.

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Apology, over such petty stuff?

It only shows the mentality of Koreans, as well as its ill intention.

Perhap the lesson learned, are more valuable than the apology.

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 Re: Dead baby pills produced in China???
Author: suen.kuen 
Date:   05-09-12 01:48

Being the 'parent' race of their off-shoot, the Japanese, who were known canninbals during their treatment on prisoners during the WWII Pacific Theather, with their mentality of being the superior race, and therefore the losers .....on especially the Chinese whom they could never conquer in their miserable history,,,,they adopted this barbaric psyche that inferiors can be eaten as animals and experimented upon like guniea pigs.
The South Koreans are more barbaric when cameras are not trained on them. Same bloody streaks of cannibalism still are practised along with their kim-chee this and kim-chee that.
So, who are the S-Koreans trying to kid with this outlandish claim on the Chinese capsules??.....eh!
Only American fools like Chow-kee, Larso and so forths are that 'simpletons' enough to spread on such bits of Enquirer-like sort of news.

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 DNA evidence is confirmed by South Korea....
Author: Chow Lee 
Date:   05-09-12 08:30

I understand in your eyes Chinese can do no wrong but you should clear our your eyes because China is wrong...just like teh rest of us.

"Chinese hospitals and abortion clinics are notifying pharmaceutical companies when a baby dies. The companies purchase the bodies of the deceased children and reportedly store them in private refrigerators of families who are paid to help the companies avoid suspicion by locating the bodies off site."



http://www.lifenews.com/2012/05/07/china-still-selling-health-pills-made-from-aborted-dead-babies/




"News reports today are focusing on an update of a South Korean SBS TV documentary released last August that focuses on Chinese pharmaceutical companies selling “health pills” made from the bodies of babies dying in abortion and miscarriages.

Chinese hospitals and abortion clinics are notifying pharmaceutical companies when a baby dies. The companies purchase the bodies of the deceased children and reportedly store them in private refrigerators of families who are paid to help the companies avoid suspicion by locating the bodies off site.

The documentary says the highly-secretive process involves putting the babies’ bodies in a medical drying microwave and grinding them into pills. The ground baby powder is then placed in a capsule and sold as a stamina enhancer, according to the documentary.

The South Korean television crew acquired the dead baby capsules and ran DNA tests on them — finding they were 99.7 percent human. The tests also found hair and nail remnants and the results were able to identify the sex of the baby whose life ended.

That information was revealed in August and, the London Daily Mail newspaper today reports that more than 17,000 of the pills have been brought into South Korea since the August 2011 report aired.


The discoveries since last August have shocked even hardened customs agents who have pledged to strengthen inspections. Chinese officials are understood to have been aware of the trade and have tried to stop the capsules being exported but thousands of packets of them have been smuggled through to South Korea.

Health authorities in Asia are concerned that if the powdered foetus trade is allowed to continue the capsules will find their way onto the Internet and be sold to gullible or sick desperate people in other parts of the world.

The South Korean Customs Service said today that it had heightened its searches of suspicious packages being brought into the country by travelers from China in an attempt to stamp out the sickening trade. According to customs agents, 35 smuggling attempts have been made since August last year involving more than 17,000 capsules disguised as ‘stamina boosters’.

A number of smugglers who have been detained by the South Korean authorities have claimed they did not know what the ingredients were or the manufacturing process behind them.

The newspaper indicates some of the babies whose bodies are used in the pills reportedly come from “dying rooms” where newborn infants are left to die by families who can’t comply with the one-child policy China institutes. Others come from the bodies of babies killed in the more than 13 million abortions the nation does annually to reduce its population.
"

Chow Lee

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 An attempt at rebuttal
Author: coyote 
Date:   05-09-12 08:52

http://www.illuminantpartners.com/2012/05/08/dead-baby-pills-sad-story-misinformation-miscommunication/

This may sound like news, but it isn’t really.

As early as August 2011, South Korean TV channels started broadcasting news about “dead baby pills” from China. The information was fairly vague, and was acknowledge by the Chinese government soon after, who demanded an investigation be initiated in Jilin Province, where the pills were supposed to be made. This was all over Chinese news for a couple of days before being flushed into the oblivion by more exciting (not necessarily good) news with more solid references...

...neither the Chinese nor the Koreans have ever had any traditions of consuming dead babies.

South Korea certainly did seize several batches of capsules containing dried and powdered human flesh. But whether or not they are “dead babies” remains a big question....

Human placenta is the most likely answer....

________

My take... Associated press did run this story without much reference and a lot of speculation. Really more rumor-mongering than reporting. Lots of unsavory things happen in China and Korea but eating babies is simply not a tradition they indulge in. So the rebuttal made a good point. While consuming babies may turn out to be a needless scare, the press taking liberty with misinformation is indeed a scary thing.

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 Re: DNA evidence is confirmed by South Korea....
Author: Tin-Kay Goh 
Date:   05-09-12 15:38

DNA only showed human origin of powder. It does not mean that China is wrong. It indicates that some Chinese are selling dried human powder to some Koreans. There must be a Korean demand. For you to conclude about China being wrong, and "you for China, and we against China" reflects poorly on your sick mind. You keep dredging stupid reports to show some bad Chinese merchants or events to insinuate the whole Chinese society and China as bad. How can you be a Chinese Chow when you are a non-Chinese Westrn Chow Chow? Time to grow up.

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 Re: DNA evidence is confirmed by South Korea....
Author: Chow Lee 
Date:   05-09-12 16:42

"only showed human origin of powder. It does not mean that China is wrong."

Of course it does not mean "China is wrong", but what it does mean if thge pills originated in China is that Someone in China is wrong.

You are such a pesky and insecure little fella...always thinking the very worst.

Chow Lee

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