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 Useless talks of Chinese generals
Author: Liang2a 
Date:   04-10-12 02:57

http://bbs.miercn.com/201204/thread_100781_1.html

罗援少将还用类似“最后通牒”的口气称,中国是在“以最大的耐心和诚意给和平以
最后的机会,但菲律宾不要欺人太甚,不要把我们的善意误判为软弱可欺,把我们
的克制忍耐误解为‘以领土换和平’,把我们的‘和平崛起’误读为‘挂免战牌’”,
否则“菲律宾将自食其果”。他还进一步用强硬语气称,与中国碰撞无异于以卵击
石。

Translation:
General Luo Yuan used the characteristic of something like an "ultimatum"
to say that China is "giving peace the last chance with the utmost patience
and sincerity. But Philippines must not bully China excessively. Do not
misinterpret our benevolence for weakness, or our restraint and patience
for "trading land for peace," or misread our "peaceful rise" for "refusal
to fight."" Otherwise "Philippines will eat its own fruit". He said further
with harsh language that to collide with China is no doubt like striking
the rock with eggs.
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Useless talks of Chinese generals

While many Chinese people feel the sting of national dishonor in this seemingly
endless disgrace of attacks against Chinese interests all around China's
borders, the time for talks is long since over. China has already warned
its neighbors not to take China's forbearance and patience for weakness
and cowardice. If China continued to talk and warn then it will only confirm
to the minds of the aggressors that China indeed is weak and cowardly.
China now appears to be a stupid cow that cannot fend off the taunts and
attacks of many juvenile delinquents. Especially, the official Chinese
media are still tamely churning out talks such as adhering to the South Sea
Declaration. In the end, the root of the problem is not in China's external
enemies. China's enemies can always be expected to attack China. The root of the problem is inside China's government for dreaming of establishing peace with rabid enemies. The Chinese
military is hobbled by traitors who will not endanger the least opportunity
to make money with foreign trade. Therefore, there is no hope of defending
China unless and until all the compradors and all the luo3 guan1 (裸官)
have been eradicated and all the Dengists have been cleansed out of the
Chinese government. There is simply no hope that China will even fire one
shot to defend its national sovereignty so long as the Dengist clique is
in control of the Chinese government. And all the Chinese generals can
fume and rage and China will still do nothing and the small states around
China will continue to make fun of China and take Chinese sovereign territories bit by bit until they are so emboldened that they all come rushing in to attack China's mainland all at once. That is when China will collapse again like so many times before in its long and bloody history.

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 Re: Useless talks of Chinese generals
Author: charles koon 
Date:   04-10-12 03:33

I thought that what the general uttered was what you had advised on this forum not that long ago. Change of heart?

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 Re: Useless talks of Chinese generals
Author: Liang2a 
Date:   04-10-12 05:02

Author: charles koon
Date: 04-10-12 03:33

I thought that what the general uttered was what you had advised on this forum not that long ago. Change of heart?
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I like what the general uttered. I like it very much. But it is useless because the generals are not the ones in control of the Chinese policies. What I would like to see is a new revolution to get rid of the traitors within the Chinese government so that the generals are freed to defend China.

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 Re: Useless talks of Chinese generals
Author: observer 
Date:   04-10-12 07:10

I find your views on China rather contradictory, confusing and irrational. You seem to be an angry old man opposing for the sake of opposing and criticising for the sake of criticising. I call these as "useless talks of Liang1a". Any comments by fellow forumites ?

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 Re: Useless talks of Chinese generals
Author: suen.kuen 
Date:   04-10-12 08:15

Yeah....observer, Liang2a does sound muddled on his views esp on the 'Dengists'.
If there are dengists then, count me as one also. I only want China per capita to reach US$30,000 already by now. Any figure below that is considered ....too slow .
One thing I agree with Liang2 is ....a flare up here and there with our immediate neighbours...should be snubbed out with razor sharp military precision. All them external people all seem to understand only brute force....nothing else.

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 Re: Useless talks of Chinese generals
Author: Liang2a 
Date:   04-10-12 16:35

Author: observer
Date: 04-10-12 07:10

I find your views on China rather contradictory, confusing and irrational. You seem to be an angry old man opposing for the sake of opposing and criticising for the sake of criticising. I call these as "useless talks of Liang1a". Any comments by fellow forumites ?
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If my ideas seem contradictory to you it is only because you are too stupid to understand anything.

China must grow big and rich. But if you think the only way to achieve that is by exports then you are wrong. Which is also why you think I'm being contradictory by condemning exports while wanting China to be rich. Expanding exports will not only not make China rich but will make China poor in the long term. This is why China's growth has now plunged down to 7.5% because its exports have stopped expanding as I've predicted and will go even lower unless domestic economic expansion takes over from exports. Once domestic economic development runs at full steam then China can grow again at double digit rate for another decade or two then slowly slow down to 7.5% until fully grown by 2040. At which time China will have a per capita GDP of some $70,000 with 2011 purchasing power.

I want China to be rich and strong. But the Dengists are a bunch of reverse racists that are rapidly selling out China and keeping it from reaching its full power and potential. And you bunch of idiots are supporting a bunch of traitors that will keep China weak and subjugated by America and Japan. I cannot minimize my contempt for idiots like you.

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 Re: Useless talks of Chinese generals
Author: charles koon 
Date:   04-11-12 06:56

""the generals are not the ones in control of the Chinese policies. What I would like to see is a new revolution to get rid of the traitors within the Chinese government so that the generals are freed to defend China.""

Is not it a norm that the civil government should control the arm forces? I suppose you would not like to see warlordism return to China.

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 Re: Useless talks of Chinese generals
Author: Chow Lee 
Date:   04-11-12 07:59

Please.....Saying the P.I is "bullying" China is like saying Costa Rica is bullying the USA. I hope china is stupid enough to start something. the world will be so quick to boycott you that china will loose 50 years progress. Mark my words.

Chow Lee

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 Re: Useless talks of Chinese generals
Author: observer 
Date:   04-11-12 12:48

Liang2a, I am afraid you are suffering from denial. You seem incapable of admitting that China has made great achievements during the past thirty years.

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 Please, no @!#$ cream for Liang :)
Author: Paul Yih 
Date:   04-11-12 13:59

Liang can use some good old Freudian sexual therapy -- by way of sodomy as in what Freud 's own nephew -- Edward Barnays had the entire US sodomized by way of propaganda :) I want to make sure Liang and Gordon Chang do not use the @!#$ brand of butt creams :) lol

Paul Yih

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 Re: Please, no @!#$ cream for Liang :)
Author: cheok hong chuan 
Date:   04-11-12 19:38

You are all 'right' to some 'degree' and equally all 'wrong' to some 'extent'!

What is past is past, what is present is present and what is future is future!

If we did not have Mao and the Hakka Army we would have ended up with the Warlords and CKS! If Mao did not go when he did and the Gang of Four eliminated, we would have been dogs scrummaging for rubbish scraps!

If it were not for progressives like Chou En-Lai and Pragmatists like Deng we would still be riding in bicycles and wearing blue sum-foo!

Now we are part of the International power play we cannot just 'return' to the past or old regime! I cannot tell you what we should be exactly but certainly we need to have a 'global' 'helicopter' view of things and futuristic!

Do not rush or jump into harsh military option or decisions. We have all these huaren controlling the politics and economy in the neighbouring countries that you are so eager to 'bomb'.

If it were not for us 'huaren' the Mainland Chinese would still be eating gruel and peddling bicycles!

You sound like you have no gratitude to us huaren!

CHC

12/4/12

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