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 US military eyes Cocos Islands as a future Indian Ocean spy base
Author: charles koon 
Date:   03-28-12 04:26

After reading the following article, it is not difficult to draw a conclusion who is not telling the truth; treating the world as imbecile like him/herself:

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/us-military-eyes-cocos-islands-as-a-future-indian-ocean-spy-base-20120327-1vwo0.html


Phillip Coorey
March 28, 2012

United States military aircraft, including drones undertaking surveillance operations over the South China Sea, could be based on Australia's Cocos and Keeling Islands in the Indian Ocean.

As part of enhanced US-Australian military co-operation announced in November by Julia Gillard and the US President, Barack Obama, the islands would replace the US's present Indian Ocean base of Diego Garcia, which the US leases from the British and is due to be mothballed in 2016.

The Washington Post reported yesterday that the US was eyeing the Cocos Islands, 2700 kilometres east of Diego Garcia, as ''an ideal site not only for manned US surveillance aircraft but for Global Hawks, an unarmed, high-altitude surveillance drone''.

''Aircraft based in the Cocos would be well positioned to launch spy flights over the South China Sea,'' the Post reported.

When Mr Obama visited Australia in November, he and Ms Gillard announced an increased US presence in Australia that experts said was all about containing a rising China. The three priorities were an increased rotation of up to 2500 US Marines through the Northern Territory, more US war planes using NT air bases, and increased access by US Navy ships and submarines to the HMAS Stirling base in Western Australia.

After Mr Obama's visit, the Defence Minister, Stephen Smith, hinted that US ships and aircraft would use the Cocos Islands eventually.

''But that's well down the track. Indeed, there would be a requirement for substantial infrastructure changes to be made for further air or naval engagement through the Cocos Islands,'' he said in late November.

Speaking yesterday at a nuclear security summit in South Korea, Ms Gillard said ''there has not been any substantial progress'' on using the Cocos Islands since Mr Smith's comments last year.

She said the focus had been on implementing the arrangement that was struck about the deployment of Marines.

''Clearly, the alliance we have with the United States is pivotal to our security. It's of long standing and we took the next natural step in my view in the evolution of that alliance last year when I agreed with President Obama that we would host the Marines on a rotational basis in the Northern Territory exercises.''

Yesterday, a spokesman for Mr Smith said the details of drones, planes and ships using the Cocos Islands had yet to be discussed.

''Cocos Islands is a longer-term option for closer Australian-US engagement but is not one of the three priority levels of engagement,'' he said.

''In the first instance, our Indian Ocean arrangement will be, in my view, greater naval access to [HMAS Stirling].''

The maritime version of the Grumman Global Hawk drone is likely to be introduced into the defence forces of both countries later this decade, under a program known as Broad Area Maritime Surveillance.

With a wingspan of almost 40 metres, it can cruise for 30 hours at a speed of 575 km/h, covering a vast expanse of ocean with its cameras, radar and other sensors.

The news that they are becoming part of Mr Obama's ''pivot'' into south-east Asia is slowly seeping out among the 600 residents of the Cocos Islands.

The caretaker-manager at Cocos Beach Bungalows, who gave his name as Bill, said he had seen reports on the internet but had not noticed any unusual activity, aside from the occasional air force plane with mechanical trouble.

The islands attract a handful of tourists each year, mainly snorkellers and birdwatchers.

For the Royal Australian Air Force, the Global Hawk will be part of the mix replacing its maritime patrol aircraft, the four-engine turboprop P3C Orion, along with a new manned aircraft, a development of the twin-jet Boeing 737 called the P8 Poseidon.

''The idea is to integrate drones and aircraft so you need fewer manned aircraft,'' said Derek Woolner, a defence expert at the Australian National University.

The progress report of the Defence Force Posture Review recommends the upgrade of the Cocos airfield.

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 Gillard rejects Chinese concerns about US alliance
Author: charles koon 
Date:   03-28-12 04:44

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/gillard-rejects-chinese-concerns-about-us-alliance-20120327-1vwwy.html

The Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, says the ''evolution'' of the US security alliance does not imperil economic ties with Australia's dominant trading partner, China.

Ms Gillard last night rejected warnings from one of the Chinese government's top security advisers of an unsustainable ''disconnect'' between Australia's security and economic policies towards China.

''I think our security arrangements are well understood by China, and we didn't just invent the alliance with America, it's six decades old,'' she said last night.

''China knows that we are in a long-term defence arrangement with America and I think we can, whilst continuing to be a staunch ally of America, also have a good constructive robust relationship with China including an economic relationship with considerable breadth and depth.''

Ms Gillard spoke to reporters after brief encounters with the US and Chinese presidents on the sidelines of the Nuclear Security Summit.

She had conversations with Barack Obama and Hu Jintao, with whom she joked about hectic work schedules. Both encounters were described as ''warm''.

Australia's diplomatic ties with China have stabilised after a series of crises in 2009, including the arrest of the Rio Tinto iron ore manager Stern Hu.

Since then, China has increased its political and economic heft, relative to other nations. But it has also had its hands full with diplomatic scuffles with the US, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, the Philippines and India.

Last month, the head of China's most important foreign policy thinktank, the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, said it was a matter of ''pressing urgency'' that Australia's strategic relationship with China had failed to keep pace with regional developments.

His comments referred to a struggle with the US for influence in the Asia-Pacific region.

''The long-standing model for the relationship, of which economic complementarity has formed the cornerstone, no longer suffices,'' Cui Liru said in a report prepared with the Australian National University's Australian centre on China in the world.

Mr Cui's thinktank is affiliated with the Ministry of State Security and provides intelligence reports to senior levels of the Chinese government, including the Politburo standing committee.

Ms Gillard also rejected the view of a leading expert on China's foreign relations, the Lowy Institute's Linda Jakobson, that her intelligence and foreign policy advisers were more hawkish on China than their counterparts in Washington.

''I think the calibration we have about our relationship with China is the right calibration.''

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 Cocos locals concerned by drone base talk
Author: CHUNG Yoon Ngan 
Date:   03-28-12 06:42

Cocos locals concerned by drone base talk

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-28/cocos-residents-concerned-by-drone-base-plans/3918526

By Samantha Hawley and staff

Updated March 28, 2012 23:27:44
Video: Cocos Islands may house future US drone base (7.30)
Related Story: Government won't rule out Aussie base for US drones
Map: Cocos (Keeling) Islands

Residents of the Australian-owned Cocos Keeling islands are concerned their home could become a base for US drones, despite a Government commitment it would not happen in their lifetimes.

The Government has not ruled out the possibility that US military surveillance drones could be based on the strategically important islands, more than 2,000 kilometres north-west of Perth.

But one Cocos Island resident says that just weeks ago a Government minister told community members it would not happen in their lifetimes.

About 600 people call the islands home, including local businessman John Clunies Ross, who has been living there for three decades.

He says the last conversation he had about a US military presence on the islands was with their local member, Government minister Warren Snowdon, earlier this month.

"The last time Snowdon was up here, he basically said, 'no, not in our lifetime,'" he said.

"It was hard to pin him down, he just didn't want to discuss it at all."

Mr Clunies Ross says some members of the community are concerned.

"There's a number of people who, on one end of the scale, are total pacifists, wouldn't like to see anything like that happen at all," he said.

"On the other end, the businesses are looking around and say, 'well, we could do with some work actually on the island'.

"I think the reaction covers the whole range at the moment."
Map: Cocos Keeling islands

'Down the track'
Audio: Cocos Islands: US military base, not in our lifetime (PM)

Defence Minister Stephen Smith says the Cocos Islands are potentially a long-term strategic location.

"But that is down the track," he said.

"I'm not putting a timetable on our consideration on Cocos. I'm not considering any detailed discussions in the near future. I'm not envisaging a conversation with my counterparts on Cocos Island for some considerable time.

"We have not had a conversation with the United States at my level about what assets might be used in or out of Cocos."

His remarks followed a report in the Washington Post which suggested the Cocos Islands could be considered a replacement for the American Diego Garcia air base.

Between 1966 and 1971, the British and Americans made the entire population of Diego Garcia, an atoll in the Indian Ocean, leave their homeland to make way for a massive US air base.

The locals have never been allowed to return, but the US lease is runs out there in 2016.

Mr Clunies Ross says he would like the Government to talk to residents about the kind of footprint a US airbase could make on the islands.

"It would at least give a basis for the locals to be able to talk about it," he said.

"But we don't have a state government to talk on our behalf, we go straight to the federal, and basically they do what they want and tell us what we're going to get later on anyway."
Low priority
Video: Stephen Smith speaks to 7.30 (7.30)

The Defence Minister says a possible Cocos Island deal is not one of the Government's "three current orders of priority".

Mr Smith says the focus is on the rotation of US marines through Darwin - a group of 250 will arrive within days - greater use of Northern Territory aircraft bases for US aircraft, and American access to the Navy's HMAS Stirling base in Perth.

He says it is likely that US nuclear-powered ships and submarines will visit Perth more regularly in the future.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has hinted the Coalition may support a Cocos Island proposal.

"The Coalition strongly supports the US alliance and we are always predisposed to do more to foster that cooperation," he said.

"That said, there are no specific proposals. If there are specific proposals, we'll have to consider them, and obviously we'll consider them in terms of what's best for Australia."

The Government says there would need to be a substantial upgrade of Cocos Islands infrastructure with a cost of up to $100 million.

Greens Senator Scott Ludlam says the idea should not be considered.

"I think it proposes a really profound challenge to Australian foreign policy," he said.

Opposition defence spokesman David Johnston says the proposal highlights capability gaps in Australia's defence forces.

He says the Government should buy some unmanned drones to help monitor asylum seeker boat movements and billions of dollars worth of mining investment in the north-west.


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 Re: Cocos locals concerned by drone base talk
Author: CHUNG Yoon Ngan 
Date:   03-28-12 06:59


Territory of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocos_%28Keeling%29_Islands



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 Re: Gillard rejects Chinese concerns about US alliance
Author: Chow Lee 
Date:   03-28-12 10:26

Why should a tina eavesdropping station pose a threat to China's economic reltationship with Australia? Is China trying to extort Australia under duress???? More Chinese "soft power" at play??? "Do what we demand....or else!!!"

I hope not!

Chow Lee

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 Re: US military eyes Cocos Islands as a future Indian Ocean spy base
Author: hohoyan888 
Date:   03-28-12 19:58

A perfect place for our drones and the drone control center.

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 Re: Cocos locals concerned by drone base talk
Author: hohoyan888 
Date:   03-28-12 20:01

These people should love our American value. Don't worry. We can just make them American. They should be happy. We can always call them Amerussie.

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 Plugging in with China
Author: charles koon 
Date:   03-29-12 02:57

It looks like a saga is developing.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/editorial/plugging-in-with-china-20120328-1vynk.html


EDITORIAL


AS A senior member of the federal opposition's frontbench, the shadow finance minister, Andrew Robb, should have known better. So should the former foreign affairs minister Alexander Downer. Eager to sink another boot into an already battered political enemy, both rushed to denounce the Gillard government's decision to ban the Chinese firm Huawei from supplying equipment to the national broadband network.

To their credit, other leading opposition figures promptly repudiated, or at least distanced themselves, from the Robb-Downer line. Not to have done so would have been, by default, to endorse the notion that the national government should ignore the advice of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation on a matter of potentially grave national security importance. While Downer is entitled to his opinion - he is out of politics, out of office and, besides, a member of the board of the Chinese firm's local arm, Huawei Australia - no such allowances can be made for Robb's clumsy gaffe.

We do not know and will not be told the grounds on which ASIO based its advice. But we can guess that it reasoned that, although Huawei is technically a private rather than Chinese government-owned corporation which does a lot of business abroad, it has strong links to the Beijing regime. It has an opaque management structure, and operates in a tightly regulated, heavily censored and strategically sensitive industry. Its founder is a former People's Liberation Army officer and its chair a former official in China's top intelligence agency. Nor will it have escaped ASIO's attention that our prime ally, the US - unlike Britain - refuses to allow Huawei to buy or build major telecommunications infrastructure in America.

This does not mean that this country should automatically follow the US lead in our dealings, whether commercial or strategic, with China. It means, rather, that our policy decisions must be driven by national interest. Often, as seems to be the case this time, our interests and those of the US coincide. Sometimes, as we have learnt the hard way in the past, they do not.

Balancing the conflicting imperatives of maintaining mutually beneficial relationships with two regional giants, the US and China, will remain the greatest challenge confronting Australian foreign policymakers. But when a choice has to be made, as with Huawei and American requests for defence facilities on our territory, we must do what all nations do: whatever seems best for us.

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 Faith placed in Uncle Sam as neighbourhood warily welcomes China
Author: charles koon 
Date:   03-29-12 03:15

Definitely it is a saga.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/faith-placed-in-uncle-sam-as-neighbourhood-warily-welcomes-china-20120328-1vyqo.html

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 Re: Plugging in with China
Author: hohoyan888 
Date:   03-29-12 09:30

The Aussie are used to follow the American lead. They think that they are the brothers of some sort of the great Yankee empire. Good for them and they don't have problem in dying for America. They died happy in Vietnam, Iraq, or any war that US wanted them to participate in the past. I suspect that the future won't be any difference.

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 Re: Plugging in with China
Author: charles koon 
Date:   03-29-12 13:55

Loyalty!

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 Re: Coco-goofs or coco-nuts for gringos :)
Author: Paul Yih 
Date:   03-29-12 14:53

I am suggesting all residents of Coco Island should be wearing only coco bras, coco undies and coco fiber utensils -- and American military will be handing out coco flavor chewing gum for sex favors :) Let them all go cuckooing by way of coco or coconuts :) Oh yes, since the Americans have been booted out of Guam -- now they will have to beg Australia for Coco Island instead :)

Paul Yih

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 Re: Coco-goofs or coco-nuts for gringos :)
Author: hohoyan888 
Date:   03-29-12 20:04

Actually, a drone base is the most easiest to be "destroyed". Any reasonable "EMI" will do it. I suspect that it was how the drone was "forced" down by the Iranian.

Military action based on drone alone can only go so far. It may work great in doing it to some low tech countries.

American will never understand this. What if a Russian general comes right out to tell the world that any American action on any Russian interest will be responded with bombs in Washington DC, New York City, Chicago, LA and the Mountain View which is at the heart of the Silicon Valley covering from San Francisco to San Jose, and most of military bases in US (which will cut off the rest of the supply line to the Oversea bases), all at the same time, I wonder what can those US politicians do about it. Nothing. Man. they probably start sucking their thumbs.

The Russian are not stupid. The Chinese are the most "calculating" people. They know when and where to respond. American still don't really understand the real meaning of the Sun Tze doctrine. American tend to play game with fire and one day they may get burned badly. One day, it may happen and by then it will be too late.

The West keeps thinking their culture is the only culture that world should adopt. They tend to push aside those (India, Iran, Turkey, Egypt, China) who used to "own" the world before. Now, these "old rich" start to wake up and the "new rich" are panic. What if takes is one dumb mistake, the "new rich" may not be able to abstain their status.

Do you know that as of today, 61% of the American debts are owned by the Federal Reserve. We can cheat as much as we are allowed. One day....

Just imagine that I borrow a $1M from you today and pay you back tomorrow by printing a few dollars more. Do you think this relationship will last ?

Let's sidetrack it a little bit.

The North Korea is going to test their Satellite launch soon. Instead of sending it over the Japan Sea, they choose the South East path, toward Indonesia. If you plot their path in an exactly opposite direction (going North West instead) , you will not be surprised to notice that it is directly going to Washington, DC. From North Korea to Washington DC takes only some 6000 miles if it goes over the North Pole. I bet that the Chinese know that well too. What does it mean. If we make one dumb mistake, the North Korean may just choose to do that. What do the North Korean have to do lose. They have nothing before and nothing after. But, what will happen to the great USA. Without New York or Washington DC, we practically have nothing. The country will almost cease to exist. Who is dumber ?

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 Parroting this defence line will always be divisive
Author: charles koon 
Date:   03-30-12 00:13

Please also read:

http://www.asiawind.com/forums/read.php?f=11&i=168391&t=168391

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 Re: Coco-goofs or coco-nuts for gringos :)
Author: Paul Yih 
Date:   03-30-12 11:55

Very good point -- Hohoyan, the West have neglected to think, to rethink, to reflect of their past and to be introspective of ones past .. for over one hundred years -- the real so called Propaganda machine , once the West accusing the Russians and the Chinese -- instead, the entire American marketing and Public Relations scheme have been programmed by Sigmund Freud's nephew -- Edward Barnays -- and how he had created to make the women wanting to smoke - or as to suggest that the women then have the male's genitalia on their fingers -- at the end, who is getting more hurt - and how the American Tobacco company group had made Edward Barnays their darling boy -- and how the CiA and the rest of the collaboration with corruption of the military to have Guatemala invaded and Russian Communists feared ---------- No wonder my admiration of the moral courage of Che Guevara had been the same -- Che was in Guatemala , when the city was seized by the US with their own mercenaries from Honduras - Honduras and HOndurans today remains to be the boy toys, soldier toys for the old systematic mass murdering School of the America ---

You are one of the few who are alerting the "ineptitude" of the US and likewise, yes, when US by the insinuation of their masters -- Israel to begin making provocations with Iran (next to Russia) and Pakistan (next to China) and all the more potential military adventures to be incited by Israel -- the next round of global confrontation in whatsoever scale will not be in favor of the Americans - be that in the Pacific or Central Asia .. the the size of the Muslim world and its population can not be overlooked -- If I were the Suni and or Saudi -- I will think twice about the big daddy US ....

Paul Yih

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