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 Some thought
Author: coyote 
Date:   03-27-12 15:37

I know there is a lot of bickering directed at you now. When you get a chance, lets do this a bit more. (Not as a trivial test, but as a discourse between genitalmen.)

You said "Thusness is neither ‘existence’ or ‘non-existence’ or not ‘existence’ or not ‘non-existence’"

Sounds similar to Tao, in that Tao is everywhere, but also unseen and cannot be described.

This approaches "mystery" at the heart of all genuine religious experience. The sense of awe that one feels, a sense of one's own very limited nature.

There is consensual reality. A reality that we share as sentient conscious people. It is a reality conveyed to us by our senses. The senses tell us what is an apple, what is sky, what is future, or past, and what is time etc. To deny the possibility of mystery, is to affirm that there is nothing which may exist beyond our senses.

Death is a cessation of our senses as we know them.

We cannot begin to fathom death, until we see how our senses have kept us caged. Tao (in Tao Te Ching) and Zen Buddhism are both successful in this, to a significant degree. But they are by no means exhaustive. If you are to get to your spiritual mountain top, it is important to shed the labels, as in saying that all faiths are one, but there is , I think, much more to this. Much more....

Shamanism has always held special interest for me. It pre-dates Taoism and was once prevalent in the land of our ancestors. Much has been made of Shamanism during 70's drug culture. But much of that has been wrong headed. Shamanism isn't about drugs or culture or counter culture, it is about exploration into alternative reality. What shows up the limits of our perception better than the presentation of an alternative?

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