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xi is good for the party

Postby TheDragon » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:50 am

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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby Liang1a » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:20 pm

习近平是一个窝囊废。
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby yewtai » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:05 am

Don't blame Eleven. He is a puppet just doing his job the best way he could to balance all the contending parties figthing for the EMPEROR THRONE OF CHINA.

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http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2017/09/tr ... o-wenguis/

After Jiang Zemin came to power, the Jiang family won the “battle” in Beijing against Liu Huaqing, Qiao Shi and Li Ruihuan etc., largely thanks to the assistance of Mr. Zeng Qinghong. However, after that the Jiang family regrouped their forces and got back their control over the Public Security and justice departments—the knife handle (刀把子); and thorough control of the gun trigger (枪把子 [signifying control of the military]) and the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection. Then they used the interest groups that Zhu Rongji and Wang Qishan had hooked up with over the years to monopolize China’s finance. This is why, as we see, China mostly failed to escape the family shadow over the past 20 years.

It’s not accurate to say “the past 30 years” or “these 30 years,” because Jiang and Zeng’s first ten years after Jiang took central power from Deng and became the true core were still a time of power struggles. Then Jiang became the inventor of “Three Represents.” China reformed and opened up. The police, judicial department, and military are not allowed to do business. Thus the reform and opening-up of China, including international relations after the June 4th incident, have been settled. The Jiang family’s time had finally arrived.

I have to say objectively that without the international awareness of Jiang and Zeng, access to internationally advanced concepts in Shanghai, as well as their deep rooted fondness for Western culture, English and American mostly, the subsequent dominance of Jiang, Zeng, and Zhu would not have been possible.
But during the time after Liu Huaqing and Qiao Shi went down, the Deng family was mostly on defense, waiting for the next Chairman Hu Jintao, appointed by their family after a generation, to take his position. The Jiang dynasty had started. There was a book called “The Man Who Changed China” describing Mr. Jiang Zemin. Affairs during that period are known by only the rare person, but they were very desperate times. Of course, there were a lot of plunderers of the nation, and one of them was Zhu Rongji—the worst liar and plunderer of the nation of all times![…]

[…] There is no doubt that Jiang Mianheng has been China’s shadow government for decades! Whatever he says goes! His dad listens to him!
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby Liang1a » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:32 pm

Obviously Mao did not try to establish a family dynasty. Nor did Mao in any way tried to amass large personal fortunes. Equally obviously, while Deng did not try to establish a personal family dynasty, he had clearly turned China into a lackey of the US. But now, increasingly, the more recent Chinese leaders have blatantly amassed huge personal fortunes. And Xi is now even trying to perpetuate his personal power. I don't know why they bother because in the end it is futile. I think the Chinese people have been too much exposed to the idea of democracy to be willing to accept a monarchical system anymore. And any leader who tried to amass personal fortune will be condemned by the Chinese people. And such attempts to amass huge personal furtunes will set a corrupt tone to will render the entire government unmanageable. In spite of all the attempts of Xi to clean up the government, I don't think the Chinese government has become any cleaner. If anything, it has become even more corrupt. This is because the top leaders are still amassing huge personal fortunes for themselves while Xi himself is obviously incompetent while trying to perpetuate his personal power.

There is a perceptible decline in the idealism of the Chinese people. China is rapidly losing its moral precepts and declining into the same conditions of the Qing and Song Dynasties. That is, China has become corrupt and uncaring within and cowardly against foreign invasion without. An alarming sign of this decline is the recent failures of satellite launches and the reported postponement of the Chang'e 5 project by 2 years to 2019 after repeatedly failures of rocket launches. A sense of malaise has settled on China since Xi came to power and the stench of decay is becoming overwhelming as China grows sicker every day.

Xi and Yang Jiechi and all the stupid CCP officials may be fooling themselves with talks about wisdom in winning without fighting. But the Chinese people can see nothing but cowardice as indian troops invade China with contempt. And now Xi is jumping to obey bully boy Trump by throwing China's long time partner if not ally under the bus. Unfortunately, even with all the potentials China has, the Chinese leaders could not unleash China's potential. And so China will now decline like it did in Song and Qing dynasties. China's economy will grow slower and slower and too much subsidies are given to exports which will stymie domestic development. And joint ventures will kill off domestic R&D and turn China's economy into an economic colony just like in the Qing Dynasty.
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby Liang1a » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:53 pm

There is not an ounce of pride in the entire Chinese government. Without pride the Chinese government is just a walking corpse.
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby Liang1a » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:14 pm

The US and the West had never approved of any Chinese leader. At least not as much as they have approved of Xi. If the US and the West approved of Xi, does that mean Xi is good for China or good for the US and the West. Obviously, if the US and the West approved of Xi, then it must be because Xi is good for the US and the West? And since the interests of the US and the West are directly opposite to the national interest of China, what is good for the US and the West is inevitably bad for China. And since Xi is so good for the US and the West, it is obvious that Xi is very bad for China. The Chinese are putting a comprador in the top of the Chinese government. This is the Manchurian candidate in reverse. Chinese patriots should be terrified.
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby yewtai » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:46 pm

When US Dollar hegemony become weakened, China will be in trouble. This is because with US dollar not being global reserve currency, US cannot print as much as she can to pay for the imports of consumer goods mostly from China. US will go into deep depression.

When China cannot export that much to US anymore, many factories in China will be in trouble and millions workers will be jobless and can go hungry and angry.

But US still can survive because she is a very large producer and exporters of agricultural food. With surplus food US will tighten belts and reduce import.

China too reliant to US market is a big mistake and soon get into trouble if US goes into recession.

Therefore Liang idea for China to be self reliant and focus of internal development should be listen to before too late.

Yuan can never be a global reserve currency because to do that many factories in China will have to close down, due to strong yuan. Yuan can only be a global reserve currency if a strong yuan policy is implemented.
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby billz » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:18 pm

^buddy, ur data is complete out of order. china's exports to the usa is only approx 3.6%
of its gdp.
http://www.atimes.com/us-likely-loser-trade-war-china/


china has driven its economy into domestic consumption since 2011, but the draft/plan
was introduced in the year 2000!

china is strong and steady.. there are so many bells and whistles that it can tune up
the system to counter any kind of "major" problems.

china will have 30-40 good and great years to go before any kind of Major problems
will happen that it cannot handle properly.
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby yewtai » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:31 am

Don't pat on your back too fast. GDP numbers are not good measure of the strength of the economy.

Germany and Japan both very reliant on US market. Without US market both Germany and Japan economy will collapse and go into depression for a long time. Japan consumption economy also form a very big portion of the GDP.

It is not the GDP numbers that determine how strong the country economy. It is the trade surplus of the country that determine how strong the country economy.

If a nation don't have surplus, she cannot print too much like Japan, to pay for the infrastructure investment. China can print extra 1000 billion yuan a year because she has very big trade surplus with US, about USD350 billion yearly.

China big GDP numbers are from infrastructure investment due to printing extra 1000 billion yearly.

Only US can print as much as she wants and get into external and internal debt, because US dollar is a global reserve currency.
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby billz » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:10 am

>GDP numbers are not good measure of the strength of the economy.

lol. thats news to me.


>Germany and Japan both very reliant on US market. Without US market both Germany and Japan economy will collapse and go into depression for a long time.

obviously u dont understand that a significant part of germany's and japan's "exports" to the usa
are actually manufactured/done inside their usa's plants.
the usa cant just close those plants; actually, the usa needs them otherwise their workers
will be on the unemployment lines.
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby billz » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:34 am

actually, china is now actually Implementing its long-term (like Decades-long-plan)
to reverse the trades by doing it from within the usa!

china's plan is to do the r&d and industrial designs and niche parts from inside
china and then exports them to the usa to be assembled there.

https://www.ncuscr.org/content/new-neig ... district-0

china's fdi into the usa is All Over the 50 states!
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby billz » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:35 am

Investors tour Bay Area
Updated: 2015-03-20 12:16

By Lia Zhu in San Francisco(China Daily USA)

US Ambassador to China Max Baucus (center) wtih a delegation of Chinese investors at San Francisco City Hall on Thursday during their visit to the Bay Area. [Lia Zhu / China Daily]
A delegation of top Chinese executives in real estate and technology visited the San Francisco Bay Area with the aim of learning about US markets and making investments.
On invitation by the US Department of Commerce, the delegation, headed by US Ambassador to China Max Baucus, visited real estate projects and business incubators, met with local government officials, and talked with tax and law experts who have experience in Chinese investment, during their three-day visit to the Bay Area.
Around 30 delegates left San Francisco for Los Angeles on Thursday, the last leg of their trip before the SelectUSA Investment Summit, to be held next Monday and Tuesday in Washington. They had also visited Seattle before San Francisco.
The three cities are among the favorites of Chinese investors. Some of the delegates have invested in those cities and planned to make further investments, said Darlene Chiu Bryant, executive director of ChinaSF, an entity that aims to promote business and trade between China and the Bay Area. She coordinated the events for the delegation in San Francisco.
The delegation's first program was a roundtable talk with Silicon Valley mayors on Tuesday, where they were briefed about the development of the valley and local projects.
"The delegates showed great interest in Silicon Valley," said Stephanie Xu, president of US-Asia Innovation Gateway, co-sponsor of the event and a non-profit corporation committed to advancing economic opportunities and investment between Asia and the US.
A Chinese solar panel manufacturer plans to set up a factory in California in response to the US import limit and broader anti-dumping and anti-subsidy tariffs on solar panels from China, Xu said.
Another enterprise, which produces artificial cornea, intends to expand its R&D center to Silicon Valley, she said.

On Wednesday's meeting with accountants, the delegates were told that US taxes are not as heavy as they may have believed.
"They told us taxes, in some situations, can be avoided, and the accountants can help us. It would help those who have limited knowledge and experience of the US tax laws," said one of the delegates, who declined to be named.
Despite the positive feedback, the trip's organizer tried to maintain a low profile by closing its doors to media. A source, who also requested anonymity, said a few deals have been signed during the trip but declined to disclose further details.
SelectUSA, established by President Barack Obama in 2011, is aimed at promoting and facilitating business investment into the United States, to create jobs and spur economic growth.
Last year, Chinese investment in the US reached $12 billion, topping the $10 billion mark for the second year in a row.
In 2013, Chinese annual foreign direct investment (FDI) in the US exceeded FDI by US companies into China.
However, China has a growth target of approximately 7 percent in 2015, lower than last year's 7.4 percent.
Due to the slower economic growth, Chinese investors are expected to be more cautious, said Xu.
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby billz » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:50 am

it is the foreigners that should be worried about not getting into the actions
in the 4xusa market in china!
would u want to lose that kind of a huge market?!

mcdonalds china is now 52% owned by a chinese group with the remaining
48% is shared by 2 groups in the usa, 1 of that is mcdonalds itself.

http://www.ecns.cn/business/2017/10-28/278750.shtml


but think about it..i bet it was the chinese part that pushed to get
the bigger portion of the pie! but mcd and the other group would then agree
to that arrangment knowing it is better to get something rather than less and less
if china is forced to divide the pie!

for sure the usa will lose much more if they cant access the 4xusa chinese market!

meanwhile, china's fdi into the usa will keep increasing!
foxconn, huawei (r&d) etc etc.. in the coming years! why? there are so much talents
inside the usa!
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby yewtai » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:37 am

What are China's REAL numbers? GNI not adjusted for PPP 3.5 trillion dollars a year, half of it in more shoddy built ghost city construction. 70 million unsold homes.

Debt, 32 trillion dollars and rising. Why? To keep people employed so the Communist Party can stay in power.

Foreign currency reserves 3.0 trillion dollars down from 4.5 two years ago , over a trillion of it spent to defend its worthless yuan.

Cost to clean up the world's worst and largest industrial waste dump where the air, water and land are so polluted it is almost uninhabitable?

None, it is beyond human capability.

What is the US GNI by comparison? 16 trillion. 4.5 times the output with one quarter as many people. Outlook for China (and Europe)? VERY BLEAK JUNIOR, VERY VERY BLEAK.

CHINA PESSIMISTIC
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Re: xi is good for the party

Postby billz » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:25 pm

china is like a hs train moving at 500 mph. it cannot be stopped even if you wanted to..
and it's not easy at all to change directions overnight.

even though economics is much beyond my pay grade lol, but i agree with liang's assessments
and recommendations to reverse the damages done to china..in the trillions of dollars!

the problem china is facing now..is that, they really do want to make corrections for
china's past mistakes.. but it's just too too hard to do that even within 5-10 yrs..
so what i have seen is: there are perhaps factions within the gov which want to manage
china the right way, but it's a beast, and each fort is guarded by their own followers.

the only thing i see being promoted now: china will open wider! thats the msg from xi
and pm li. i guess we shall see..if thats harikiri or what lol..

but perhaps at some point in time in the near future, perhaps by 2030, regardless of
which faction will be declared a winner.. the ppl in china and the intellectuals will
then knowWhere and How china should proceed then..
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